Six Hundred Millimetres of Bedroom, and What Is Bolted to the Other End of It
The back bedroom of a 1930s semi is three and a half metres square and will not take a double bed and a wardrobe, because a chimney breast 1.35 m wide projects 340 mm into the corner and eats the clearance the wardrobe doors need. Nobody has lit a fire in it since the gas went in. The owner wants the corner back, has been told by one builder that it is a morning with a breaker and by another that it needs an engineer and a steel, and both are describing the same wall.
The difference between those two quotes is not the demolition. Any competent bricklayer will have a metre and a third of solid brickwork down and the room swept by mid-afternoon. The difference is what is left standing when they stop. Take the ground-floor breast out and you have removed the bottom of a masonry column that runs on through the bedroom, the roof space and the roof covering and finishes a metre clear of the ridge under four pots and a bed of flaunching. That column was built from the footing upward and has never been asked to span anything.
So the job is a question about the remainder, asked three times: what does the retained masonry weigh, what is going to carry it, and will the person signing the completion certificate accept that thing. The order matters, because the weight is a measurement, the support is a choice, and the acceptance is somebody else's decision you can predict but not make.
Draw the Whole Stack Before You Draw the Cut
Almost every mistake here is made by treating the breast as a wall panel and forgetting the parts you cannot see from the room. Go into the loft with a tape first: the roof-space stack is usually narrower than the breast downstairs because the flues have gathered, so measure its plan size and its height to the roof line. Then measure outside, from the highest point where the stack passes through the roof surface to the underside of the flaunching, and count the pots. That upper section is what everybody underestimates — from the ground it looks like a chimney, and on a load sheet it is half a tonne of brickwork with a lever arm.
It also carries its own rule. Approved Document J to the Building Regulations sets the stability limit for a masonry chimney standing clear of the roof: height above the highest point of intersection with the roof surface should not exceed four and a half times its least horizontal dimension, unless it is designed for wind loading or restrained. That rule assumes the stack is continuously supported from below. Removing part of that support does not change it, but a stack that was already borderline is now sitting on a detail rather than on masonry.
Turning geometry into weight is arithmetic provided you are honest about the density. Solid clay brickwork is commonly taken at 18 to 22 kN per cubic metre — the range in the density tables of BS EN 1991-1-1, Eurocode 1, Actions on Structures — roughly 1,800 to 2,240 kg/m3, or 112 to 140 lb/ft3. Take the high end for dense units in cement mortar, the low end for soft handmade brick in lime. Then subtract nothing for the flues: the void is real on a four-flue stack, but parging, soot, nest debris and the solid corbelling at each gather put most of it back.
Keep the three pieces apart, because three different checks want them. Above the roof, flaunching and pots included, governs stability in wind. The roof-space section plus the first-floor breast is what the props hold. All three together are what the permanent support carries for the life of the building, and that is the number on the drawing.
A domestic chimney, from the pots to the hearth
- Pots and flaunching — the last thing built and the first thing off; a mortar bed and terracotta that together weigh more than the scaffold plan usually allows for
- Stack above the roof surface — governed for stability by the height-to-least-width limit in Approved Document J, and weighed as solid masonry because the parging and corbelling fill most of the void CMU Wall Self-Weight Calculator
- Stack in the roof space — usually narrower than the breast below because the flues have gathered; measure it rather than assuming it repeats the bedroom dimension
- Retained breast at first floor — the piece the temporary props actually hold, and a slender unrestrained pier for as long as its base is missing and nothing has replaced it Needle and Prop Load Calculator (Temporary Masonry Support)
- Gallows brackets or a beam — the decision the whole job turns on: brackets have no product standard and no published safe working load, a beam has both and a design behind it Masonry Lintel Uniform Load Capacity Calculator
- Bearing at each side — where the reaction crosses into the flank wall and into the party wall, on a padstone rather than straight onto old brickwork Masonry Lintel Bearing Length Checker
- Ground-floor breast and hearth — the only part actually coming out, and the constructional hearth slab under it is a separate lift that is heavier than the brickwork per barrow Demolition Bulk Volume Swell Calculator
Run each of the three pieces separately — above roof, roof space, retained breast — against a weight per square metre built from the leaf thickness and the density you have chosen. Three answers are more useful here than one, because three different checks want them.
The total wall face area.
The specific block product's weight per unit wall area, from its manufacturer data sheet.
Total wall self-weight
8,520 lb
Unit weight varies significantly between hollow, partially grouted, and fully grouted CMU — always use the specific value for your actual grouting pattern, not a generic assumption.
- Equivalent in kN
- 37.91 kN
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CMU Wall Self-Weight Calculator: 8,520 lb — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
What this calculation does not cover
- The unit weight you type is the only thing carrying the wall's construction. Nothing here derives it from block size, aggregate class, percent solid or grout spacing, so entering a fully grouted figure for a partially grouted wall — or the reverse — is wrong by the whole difference between the two.
- Only the masonry and its grout. Parge coat, render, stucco, adhered or anchored veneer, insulation, furring, board finishes and attached steel are all additional dead load and none of it is in this total.
- The area you type is treated as solid wall. Openings are not deducted, and the lintels, jambs and bond beams around them are not added — those courses are grouted and reinforced, so they weigh more per unit area than the field of the wall.
- A total, not a distribution. It gives no load per unit length at the base, no split between what a lintel, beam or shelf angle picks up and what runs straight to the footing, and no eccentricity on the supporting element.
- This is a dead load quantity, not a design check. No load factors or load combinations are applied, and nothing here verifies that the wall, its supports, its footing or the bearing soil can carry the result.
Whose Flues Are Actually in There
In a terrace or a semi the breast is nearly always in the party wall, and the notice regime that follows from that — which limb of the Party Wall etc. Act 1996 catches which operation, what particulars the notice has to carry and what the clocks are — is set out in the party wall notice guide rather than here. What that page cannot do for you is count the flues, and counting the flues is what decides the rest of this job.
A party-wall stack usually holds flues from both houses, separated by withes — the single-brick divisions sometimes called midfeathers. They stop smoke crossing between dwellings and they also stiffen the stack. When your breast comes out, the neighbour's flue may end up separated from your room by a half-brick skin, or in older work by nothing at all once the parging is disturbed. A flue opened into a habitable room is a fire and a carbon monoxide route, and it is your defect regardless of whose flue it is.
Count them at the pots, against the fireplaces in your own house, before anything else is decided. Four pots over two houses means the above-roof stack is one structure serving both, and that is where the bracket conversation usually ends — a support hung off a party wall carrying half of somebody else's chimney asks a neighbour to accept a detail on their side of the boundary. If the stack is shared and staying, the honest options narrow to a designed beam, or taking the whole thing down below the roof line and making the roof good, which takes their flues with it.
Gallows Brackets Are a Detail With No Published Capacity
A gallows bracket is a fabricated mild steel right-angle — a horizontal arm, a vertical leg bolted flat to the wall, a diagonal brace between them — fitted in pairs at the cut line so the retained breast sits on the two arms. They have been used in British housing for decades and are still the cheapest way to solve this. They are also not a product. There is no British Standard for a gallows bracket, no declaration of performance, and no manufacturer's safe working load table to point at. A supplier who quotes a capacity is quoting their own calculation, which may be sound and is still not a declared performance.
That absence is why acceptance is local rather than national. Local Authority Building Control and individual authorities publish their own guidance notes on chimney breast removal, and they differ from district to district — some accept brackets within stated limits, some only with an engineer's calculation, some not at all. Approved Document A is the requirement the work has to satisfy; the notes are how a particular authority has decided to be satisfied. Find out which one applies before the quote goes out.
The mechanics explain every condition on those lists. A bracket does not sit on the wall; it hangs off it. The arm carries the stack load at a distance out from the face, and that becomes a couple at the wall: the top fixings are pulled out of the brickwork in tension while the foot of the leg pushes in. Old lime mortar has effectively no tensile bond and modest shear, so the detail depends entirely on a material a century old that you can only assess by opening it up. It is why brackets are refused on cavity walls, half-brick walls and anything rendered over rubble — the wall cannot supply the couple, whatever the steel can do. Anchorage into masonry is governed by BS EN 1996-1-1 and by TMS 402/602 in the United States, not by a concrete anchor breakout model.
This site publishes no capacity for a gallows bracket, no maximum stack height and no threshold weight, because those figures belong to a particular bracket on a particular wall assessed by a particular authority. What can be published is what the conditions are actually testing, which you can check yourself in an afternoon with a bolster and a torch.
| The condition as written | What it is actually testing | How to check it before you quote |
|---|---|---|
| Solid wall, at least one brick thick | Whether the wall can develop the couple the bracket applies, and whether the bolts land in bonded masonry rather than in a leaf on its own | Open a hole through and measure; a 340 mm breast on a 100 mm wall is common and is not a one-brick wall |
| Sound mortar, no raking or friable joints | Bond strength at the fixings, which is the weakest link in the whole detail | Scratch the bed joints with a screwdriver at the proposed bolt line; mortar you can rub out will not hold a tension fixing |
| Limited height of stack retained above | Total load on the arms, and the wind overturning moment on a column whose base has been cut | Measure the loft section and the above-roof section separately and weigh both; the pots and flaunching count |
| Not a shared or party-wall stack | Whether the detail imposes on a neighbour's structure, which is a legal question the authority cannot settle for you | Count the flues at the pots against the fireplaces in your own house |
| No previous alteration to the wall below | Whether the load path from the bracket to the foundation is still continuous | Look for an earlier opening, a knock-through, or a breast already removed on the floor below |
| Resin anchors, not expanding fixings | Splitting: an expanding bolt puts a wedge into a brick that is already being pulled | Confirm the fixing type and the resin manufacturer's masonry data sheet, including hole cleaning, before ordering |
Holding a Column, Not a Line
Propping is temporary works under BS 5975, and the sequence for holding a wall while the member under it is changed is set out in the failed lintel guide rather than repeated here. What is different about a breast is that you are not supporting a line of wall. You are supporting a block: a concentrated mass, deep front to back, tall, and free to fall in a direction a wall panel cannot.
The first consequence is that needling often does not work. A needle relies on passing a member through the full thickness of solid masonry and propping both sides, and the middle of a breast at the height you would want to needle is flue void. Drilling through and finding air is the good outcome; the bad one is a needle bearing on a withe. The usual answer is props to a spreader under the retained breast, with masonry support heads clamped into raked bed joints in the flank and party walls either side — and the published safe working load of the attachment governs, not the prop's, as Acrow's Strongboy literature makes clear.
The second consequence is the one that hurts people. The moment the base is out, what stands above it is a slender pier of masonry two storeys and a roof high, restrained only by whatever is genuinely tied to it at floor and roof level. It has no reserve against a sideways push, and a strut kicked out at the bottom is exactly a sideways push. Restrain it laterally before taking any load off it.
The third is mundane and expensive. On a ground floor you are frequently standing props on two different worlds a metre apart: one foot on the hearth slab or the old fireplace base, which is solid, the other on suspended timber with a joist that may be trimmed and doubled around the hearth, or may not be. Establish what each foot stands on individually; the sole plate arithmetic itself is common to all propping and the lintel guide covers it.
- Get the party wall notices served and their periods run before anything is booked in.
- Measure the roof-space stack and the above-roof stack separately, and count the pots.
- Lift a board or open a perpend to find what each prop position is standing on.
- Restrain the retained breast laterally before any load comes off it.
- Load the props by hand to snug, against a spreader catching the full depth of the breast rather than its face.
- Leave the props standing until the permanent support is bedded, packed solid to the masonry above, and the packing has gained strength.
Enter the full height of retained masonry above the cut — loft stack and above-roof section included — against the breast depth rather than a leaf thickness, and read the answer as the load on each support point rather than as a line load along an opening.
From the head of the new opening up to the top of the wall, or to the next support.
The thickness of the masonry being held, excluding any leaf that is not being supported.
The bulk unit weight of the wall being held, mortar included.
The clear width of the opening being formed under the supported wall.
Centre-to-centre spacing of the needles through the wall.
The combined permanent and imposed load of any floor framing into this wall.
How much floor this wall carries — normally half the span of the floor either side of it.
What the surface the props stand on can take without settling or punching through.
Load carried by each needle
3.63 kips
Needling and propping is temporary works. This gives the loads to design to; it does not select the props, check them for buckling at their extended length, or confirm that what the props stand on can take them. All three belong to a temporary works designer.
- Load carried by each prop
- 1.81 kips
- Needles across the opening
- 4 needles
- Combined line load along the wall
- 1,208.77 lbf/ft
- Masonry share of that line load
- 707.52 lbf/ft
- Floor share of that line load
- 501.25 lbf/ft
- Sole plate bearing area required beneath each prop
- 0.87 ft²
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Needle and Prop Load Calculator (Temporary Masonry Support): 3.63 kips — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
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This result is a specification — 3.63 kips — not a quantity. Put the thing it sizes into your project: how many, what you call it, and your supplier’s price.
What this calculation does not cover
- Takes the full rectangle of masonry above the opening. That is deliberately conservative — arching can carry some of it away, but only in sound masonry with enough height and no nearby opening.
- Does not check the prop itself. A prop's safe working load falls sharply with extension and with any eccentricity at the head, and the manufacturer's chart is the only place that answer lives.
- Does not check the needle. Bending, shear and bearing on the masonry at the needle hole all need sizing against the load this page gives.
- Assumes props each side of the wall share equally. A single-sided scheme, or props at different extensions, does not.
Turning a Block of Masonry Into Something a Beam Table Recognises
Where brackets are refused, or the stack is too heavy or the wall too poor for them, the answer is a beam spanning the width the breast occupied, landing on the flank wall at one end and the party wall or a pier at the other. That beam carries a concentrated load — the retained breast bearing across roughly its own footprint — rather than the uniform load every published lintel safe working load table is written around. Using a table figure here is the specific error the failed lintel guide warns about, and this is the case you are now in.
There is a legitimate screening step, and it is worth knowing exactly what it covers. Convert the concentrated load to the uniform load producing the same peak bending moment: for a load W at mid-span of a span L, w equals two W over L, because a central point load gives a moment of WL over four and a uniform load gives wL squared over eight. Off centre, with the load at distances a and b from the supports, the equivalent is eight W a b over L cubed. The substitution is exact on bending and high on deflection wherever the load sits, about a quarter high at mid-span. End shear is the exception: twice the true figure at mid-span, but lower than the point load's own once the load sits nearer a support than a quarter of the span. That is what makes it usable as a screening figure and useless as a design: it tells you honestly whether a candidate section is nowhere near or in the region, and never that it is adequate.
Two things end the screening and start a real design. A breast rarely lands neatly at mid-span, so the true case is a patch load with unequal reactions, and the smaller reaction is not the one that governs the bearing. And the beam is holding up masonry with plaster on it, which means deflection under permanent load decides the section rather than strength — the argument the steel beam guide makes at length, and the reason a section that passes on bending can still crack the ceiling it was installed to save.
This one runs the other way round: give it a candidate section's allowable moment and the span, and it returns the largest uniform load that section can take in bending. Hold that answer against the equivalent uniform load the conversion above gave you. It is a screening comparison, not a design — the substitution matches the point load on bending and nothing else, and bending is only the first of the three checks the section has to pass.
The lintel's allowable bending moment capacity, in kN·m, from a manufacturer's load table or structural calculation.
The clear span between supports (the opening width).
Maximum allowable uniform load
3,540 lbf/ft
This checks bending moment capacity only — the lintel must also satisfy shear capacity and deflection limits, both outside this calculator's scope, and this assumes a simple uniform load with no point loads or eccentricity.
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Masonry Lintel Uniform Load Capacity Calculator: 3,540 lbf/ft — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
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This result is a specification — 3,540 lbf/ft — not a quantity. Put the thing it sizes into your project: how many, what you call it, and your supplier’s price.
What this calculation does not cover
- This is a bending check on a number you supply. It does not verify that the allowable moment you entered belongs to your lintel, and it never looks at end shear, deflection, or crushing of the masonry under the bearings. On a lintel carrying brittle masonry, or one over a window that has to keep opening, deflection usually governs long before bending does.
- The span field takes the clear opening, but a lintel spans between the centres of its end bearings, which is longer. Span is squared in the formula, so entering the bare opening returns more capacity than the member actually has. Add roughly one bearing length to the clear opening before entering it if you want the figure on the safe side.
- The answer is the total uniform load the section can carry, the lintel's own weight included. Nothing here knows what the lintel weighs, so subtract its self-weight from this figure before comparing what is left against the wall, floor and roof load coming down onto the opening.
- It models one simply supported member under one uniform line load. It does not split the load between the inner and outer leaves of a cavity wall, handle a lintel running continuously over two openings, or account for a beam, joist or truss landing as a point load anywhere over the span.
- Whether the moment you typed is a service (allowable) figure or a factored resistance decides what the answer means, and the calculator cannot tell them apart: a factored capacity returns a factored load, which must be compared against factored loads and not service loads. Forming or widening an opening in a loadbearing wall is engineered work in most jurisdictions, and this check does not replace those calculations or the approval that goes with them.
Two Ends, One of Which May Not Be Yours
The reaction from either scheme has to cross into masonry, and the masonry here is poor at both ends. On the flank side the beam frequently lands on the short return between the breast and the external wall, which in a great many houses is a half-brick pier a few hundred millimetres wide that was never intended as a bearing. On the party side it lands in a wall shared with next door.
Bearing length is the item people shave to make a member fit an existing gap, and shaving it does not derate the member gracefully — it takes it outside the case its capacity was published for. The minimums by member type, and where each comes from, are tabulated in the failed lintel guide. What is specific here is the stress rather than the length: a padstone spreading the reaction over enough area that the masonry beneath stays inside its allowable bearing stress, a separate check governed by TMS 402/602 and by BS EN 1996-1-1. A long bearing on a soft pier still crushes.
Cutting the pocket in a party wall is the moment you find out how thick that wall really is. A one-brick wall with a 100 mm padstone in it has lost half its thickness over the length of the pocket, and what sits behind the padstone is the neighbour's plaster. The usual answer is a shallower pocket on a longer padstone, or a post carrying the beam end down beside the wall rather than into it. Whichever it is, the dimensions belong in the notice before the surveyors see them, not after.
Measure the bearing you can actually cut into sound masonry at each end — the short flank return and the party wall are two different answers — and check both against the minimum for the member type before the beam is ordered to a length.
The actual bearing length provided on each end of the lintel.
The type of lintel, which sets the applicable minimum bearing length.
Provided bearing length
6 in
The minimum bearing this lintel type calls for is below the bearing you have provided shown with it — you entered it from the drawing. Being under one limit is not a design. Nothing else is checked here — not the other limit states, not the connections, not the member the load arrives from.
- Required minimum
- 4 in
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Masonry Lintel Bearing Length Checker: 6 in — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
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This result is a specification — 6 in — not a quantity. Put the thing it sizes into your project: how many, what you call it, and your supplier’s price.
What this calculation does not cover
- The three minimums are imperial figures, and the checker converts whatever you enter into inches before comparing, so the result is always reported in inches even in metric mode. A 100 mm bearing, the usual minimum in British and European lintel practice, converts to 3.94 in and is reported as a failure against the 4 in general minimum, a shortfall of 1.6 mm. Treat a marginal fail of that size as a units artefact and check the minimum your own jurisdiction actually specifies, which may be expressed in millimetres and may scale with span.
- This is a comparison of one length against a fixed minimum. It never asks for the load above the opening, the span, or the width of the lintel where it sits on the wall, so it cannot say whether the masonry under the bearing is being crushed. Bearing stress is the end reaction divided by the bearing area, length multiplied by width, and on a long span or a heavily loaded opening that check can demand more bearing than the code minimum, so a pass here is a geometric pass and not a stress pass.
- The figure you measure is how far the lintel overlaps the wall, not how much of that overlap is solidly supported. Bearing over ungrouted hollow block cells, an unfilled perp joint, a chase, a cavity tray or a compressible damp-proof course delivers less effective bearing than the tape shows, and hollow units at the bearing normally have to be filled solid or swapped for a solid-top or bond beam unit before the measured length counts.
- Nothing here examines the masonry beyond the bearing. Load spreads downwards and outwards from the bearing into the wall below, so a narrow pier between two openings, a bearing close to a corner, a movement joint or an unrestrained return can be the real weak point even when the bearing length itself is generous. The required end distance or minimum pier width is a separate check set by your masonry code.
- A passing bearing says nothing about the lintel itself. Whether the section can carry the load over the span, and whether it deflects enough to crack the masonry above or bind the door or window below, are separate questions handled by the lintel load capacity calculator. Deflection over brittle finishes is normally limited to a fraction of the span, commonly somewhere between span over 360 and span over 600 depending on the finish and the jurisdiction, and that limit often governs before strength does.
Taking It Down in Courses
With the props standing, the breast comes down from the cut line, course by course, never by knocking the bottom out and letting the rest follow. Victorian and interwar brickwork in lime mortar comes apart along the joints with a bolster far more readily than a breaker will convince anybody, at a fraction of the dust and none of the vibration. Cement-mortared work from the 1960s onward does not, which is where the breaker earns its place — though a breaker held horizontally into a wall you are standing beside is also how props get knocked.
The arisings are not one material. Face brick in lime mortar releases cleanly and is worth stacking rather than tipping, both because reclaimed brick has value and because sorted brick is lighter to dispose of than mixed rubble. Behind it there is parging and soot off the flue face, usually a barrow of nest debris and loose fill from the gathering, and at the bottom the constructional hearth — the slab of solid non-combustible material Approved Document J requires under a solid fuel appliance, in the order of 125 mm thick and wider in plan than the breast above it. That slab is concrete rather than brick and it is the heaviest lift of the day per barrow.
Then the volume, which always surprises. The example breast is 1.35 m wide by 0.34 m deep by 2.5 m high, a little over a cubic metre in place, and it looks manageable while it is still a wall. Broken up it is not: masonry swells because breaking it introduces voids, and the swell factors published in the demolition estimating literature are how you get from the solid figure the tape gave you to the loose figure everything downstream is bought against. That conversion's general logic belongs to the demolition planning guide; what matters here is running it before booking a container, because the in-place figure fits in a box the loose figure will not.
Convert the in-place volume you measured off the breast — and the hearth slab separately, because it is a different material — into the loose volume that has to be carried out of the room and into a box.
The intact, in-place volume of the masonry or concrete before demolition.
The type of masonry/concrete being demolished — different materials bulk by different amounts.
Estimated bulked (swelled) volume
26 cubic yards
These are typical demolition-estimating swell factors, not a universal engineering constant — actual bulking varies with the demolition method (mechanical breaking vs. explosive vs. hand demolition) and resulting debris piece size. Use a higher factor for finely broken debris and confirm against your hauler/estimator's experience on similar material.
- Swell factor used
- 1.3 x
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Demolition Bulk Volume Swell Calculator: 26 cubic yards — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
Estimated cost — your price
This site holds no price list for this material — local prices vary too much to publish honestly. Enter your supplier's price and the result is costed with it.
What this calculation does not cover
- The in-place volume from a length x height x thickness take-off is the structure alone, and the container receives everything attached to it. Plaster and render, screed, cavity insulation, timber lintels and bearers built into masonry, tile and its bedding — none of that contributed to the solid volume entered, all of it leaves in the same load, and on a finished internal wall it is a substantial share of what goes out.
- The swell factors are for material that breaks into loose pieces, and reinforced concrete does not. The bar holds broken slabs together, so the debris stands in tangled sections occupying far more space than 1.3 times its solid volume until the reinforcement is cut out. A reinforced slab, a ring beam or an RC frame needs the bar handled as its own operation, and the volume on the ground before that happens bears no relation to this figure.
The Wall Behind the Breast Is Thinner Than You Think
The first thing the empty corner shows you is how much wall there actually was. In a great many terraced and semi-detached houses the party wall behind the fireplace recess is a half-brick skin, because the breast made up the thickness and nobody built a full brick behind a projection already 340 mm deep. Removing it therefore does not leave a flat party wall; it leaves a full-height panel of 100 mm masonry between two dwellings that now has to satisfy fire separation under Approved Document B and sound insulation under Approved Document E on its own. It usually cannot. Blockwork built against it, an independent lining, or a designed separating construction is the fix, and it is the line item missed in almost every quote written from the doorway.
The second is the flue apertures. Where the throat gathered there will be openings in the wall face, and where a withe has gone there may be a route straight into the neighbour's flue. Those get built up solid in dense units bonded into the surrounding brickwork, not foamed and skimmed. Any flue above that is now permanently out of use is capped and, following Approved Document J's guidance on disused flues, ventilated top and bottom — a sealed damp flue in a party wall drives salts through the plaster on both sides, and the neighbour sees it first.
Take the quantity off what you are building rather than off the room: the make-good panel, the flue apertures, the toothing into the flank wall where the breast was bonded in, and any rebuilt pocket at the bearings. Set the unit size and joint width to the wall you are tying into rather than a nominal, because the courses have to line through with what is already there.
Count the make-good panel, the flue apertures, the toothing into the flank wall and the rebuilt pockets as one quantity, at the unit size and joint width the existing courses are actually set out to.
SettingsSettings for this calculation
The standard allowance most suppliers and estimating guides assume for ordinary work.
The length of the brick wall or veneer.
The height of the brick wall or veneer.
Extra bricks for cuts, breakage, and corners.
The actual (not nominal) length of your brick face, before adding the mortar joint.
The actual (not nominal) height of your brick face, before adding the mortar joint.
The thickness of the mortar joint between bricks, both horizontally and vertically.
The brick's depth, which becomes the wythe thickness for a single-wythe veneer wall.
Estimated brick needed
1,177 bricks
- Wall area
- 156 sq ft
- Coverage rate (from your dimensions)
- 6.86 bricks/sq ft
- Base brick count (no waste)
- 1,070 bricks
- Mortar mix needed
- 14 80 lb bags
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Brick Calculator: 1,177 bricks — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
Estimated cost — your price
This site holds no price list for this material — local prices vary too much to publish honestly. Enter your supplier's price and the result is costed with it.
What this calculation does not cover
- Openings and returns are not in the geometry. The count treats the wall as one plain rectangle of face area, with nothing deducted for doors, windows, vents or reveals and nothing added for corners, returns or piers. Take openings out of the length and height you enter before you read the answer.
- It counts one wythe of brick laid flat, showing its long face. A second wythe or cavity leaf, header courses and rowlock bands, and any bond that turns bricks to show their end all put more units in the same area than this returns. Brick depth changes the mortar figure only, never the brick count.
- The mortar figure is joint geometry, not a mix design. It is the volume of the bed and head joints implied by your joint width and brick depth, converted at one premixed bag's published yield; it excludes the collar joint between wythes, droppings and board waste, and it assumes every joint is solidly filled. It does not proportion cement, sand, lime or water for a site-batched mix, and it does not pick a mortar type for your exposure.
- Nothing but brick and bagged mortar is counted. No wall ties, weep holes or vents, lintels, DPC, flashing, movement joints or reinforcement, and no bedding for sills and coping.
- This is a quantity take-off, not a structural design. It says nothing about wall thickness for the height, lateral restraint, wind or retained load, foundations, or the mortar strength the exposure demands. A freestanding, retaining or loadbearing wall needs those from the building code or an engineer.
The Weighbridge Ticket Audits the Number You Started With
Here is a check nobody does and everybody should. The masonry you take out and the masonry you leave above the cut were built as one continuous stack, from the same brick and the same mortar, in proportions you have already measured. So the tonnage that leaves the site is an independent measurement of the density you assumed when you weighed the remainder — and the remainder is the number the whole support decision rests on.
Convert the loose volume into tons, then work backwards: divide the weighbridge tonnage by the solid in-place volume the tape gave you and you have this building's real brickwork density rather than a table value. If it lands inside the Eurocode 1 range you assumed, the load on the brackets or the beam is what you told building control it was. If it comes out well above, the stack is heavier than the calculation said, and the time to say so is while the props are still standing rather than after the plasterer has been. It costs one phone call for the ticket, and it is the only chance the job offers to test an assumption against a measurement.
Predict the tonnage from the loose volume and the density you assumed, so you have a figure to hold the weighbridge ticket against. The ticket is the measurement; this is only the prediction it is testing, and a ticket well above it says the stack is heavier than the support was sized for.
The volume of brick rubble in cubic yards.
Approximate weight
12 short tons
About 1.2 short tons per cubic yard for broken brick and mortar; lighter than concrete rubble but still heavy waste. A planning figure, not a specification. Check the figure against the container's or vehicle's weight limit before booking.
- Conversion factor applied
- 1.2 short tons per cu yd
They open the calculator with your figures already in it
Brick Rubble Cubic Yards to Tons Calculator: 12 short tons — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
Estimated cost — your price
This site holds no price list for this material — local prices vary too much to publish honestly. Enter your supplier's price and the result is costed with it.
What this calculation does not cover
- A wall's outside dimensions are not its brick volume. Measuring length by height by full thickness on a cavity wall counts the cavity and the blockwork inner leaf as brick. Take those off, and convert concrete lintels, sills and footings at their own density rather than this one.
- How the container is filled changes the tons per cubic yard. Rubble dropped in by grab or bucket and pushed down as the machine works sits tighter than the same material barrowed in, so a machine-loaded container reaches its weight limit before it reaches this yardage.
- This factor is for broken material, not for the wall. Brickwork bulks by roughly half again as it comes down, so a volume measured off intact masonry — which is what the first note above walks you through — converts at a solid-brickwork density nearer 1.6 short tons per cubic yard rather than the 1.2 used here for loose arisings. Either bulk the measured wall volume by about 1.5 before entering it, or measure the heap.
- The tonnage says nothing about where it can stand. A loaded skip puts its whole weight through a few small bearing points, and arisings heaped on a suspended floor, a basement vault or a block-paved drive concentrate it further. Check what the ground or structure underneath will carry before the container is sited or the pile is built.
Brick arisings sit between clean aggregate and concrete rubble in density, and the mortar content is what moves the figure. Old lime-mortared brickwork breaks apart cleanly and produces relatively light, sortable arisings; cement-mortared work comes away in lumps that carry more mortar per brick and weigh more. That distinction matters for reclaim as much as for disposal, since bricks that separate cleanly are worth salvaging and those bonded in cement generally are not. Estimate the volume from the wall being taken down, convert, and check it against the container's weight limit.
Where the Box Stands, and What Must Not Go In It
Chimney rubble fails on weight rather than volume, the opposite of most refurbishment work. A cubic metre of solid brickwork is around two tonnes in place — 1.8 at the soft end of the density range, 2.2 at the dense end — and still heavy once broken, so a container ordered for the loose volume reaches its permitted weight while it looks part full. Check the two constraints separately and take whichever binds first.
Access decides the rest. In a terrace with no driveway the container stands on the highway, which under the Highways Act 1980's builders' skip provisions needs a permit from the highway authority together with lighting and markings. Where that is not available the fallback is bulk bags, and a bag rated at a tonne fills with brick rubble long before it looks full — one the crane will not lift is an expensive ornament in a front garden. Either way there is a barrow route through a furnished house and, on an upstairs breast, a flight of stairs; the Manual Handling Operations Regulations 1992 are why that route is planned rather than discovered on the day.
One stream does not go in with the rest. Material scraped off the flue face — soot, tar and creosote from a flue that burned coal or wood — is not clean brick rubble, and whether it classifies as hazardous is answered by the waste classification guidance the UK environment agencies publish as WM3, not by the skip company's price list. Bag it separately and describe it accurately on the transfer note: the duty of care under the Environmental Protection Act 1990 sits with the producer however the load was filled. And if the breast face carries a textured coating of any age, that is settled before a tool touches it under the Control of Asbestos Regulations 2012 — the testing sequence is covered in the lath and plaster ceiling guide.
Put the loose volume in and read the weight limit as the constraint that binds first on this material — then check that the container you have chosen can physically stand where the permit or the driveway allows it to.
Volume of waste as it will be thrown in.
What is going in.
The hire company's stated limit.
Container volume required
7.75 yd³
Volume is the binding constraint at this density.
- Estimated weight
- 3,657.65 lb
- Metric tonnes
- 1.66 t
- Cubic yards
- 7.75 yd³
- Volume this container can take at the weight limit
- 37.37 yd³
- Containers needed on weight
- 1 load
They open the calculator with your figures already in it
Skip & Dumpster Size Calculator: 7.75 yd³ — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
What this calculation does not cover
- Densities are typical loose figures. Wet soil and saturated plasterboard weigh substantially more than the values used here.
- Segregating waste usually costs less than mixed disposal and is required for several materials — hazardous waste, plasterboard in some jurisdictions, and anything containing asbestos, which must never go in a general container.
When It Stops Being a Bracket Question
Two findings take this out of the range where a bracket detail is worth pricing at all, and neither is subtle. A breast already removed on the floor below, because the load path has been interrupted once and nobody documented what replaced it. And a stack shared with a neighbour, because the support then sits in somebody else's structure.
The third is a choice rather than a finding, and it belongs in front of the owner early: take the whole stack out, top to bottom, and make the roof good. It costs more on the day — scaffold, roof work, a hole to close, the neighbour's flues to resolve if the stack is shared — and it removes the support question entirely, along with a redundant stack to maintain, flashing that will want attention in fifteen years, and wind load on a chimney nobody uses. Where the flues are genuinely dead and the roof is due anyway it is frequently the better job. Where the stack is a feature of a terrace roofline, or the house is listed or in a conservation area, it is not the builder's decision at all.
Measured before the quote, not after the breast is on the floor
Six figures that decide whether this is a bracket detail, a beam, or a full stack removal — taken in the order that each one can stop the job.
- Whether the stack is shared, counted at the pots — Pots against fireplaces in your own house. A shared stack ends the bracket conversation and starts a party wall one.
- Height and plan size of the stack above the roof surface — Measured from the highest point of intersection with the roof, with the flaunching and pots counted as load, and checked against the height-to-width limit.
- Height and plan size of the stack in the roof space — It is usually narrower than the breast below because the flues have gathered — measure it rather than projecting the bedroom dimension upward.
- Actual wall thickness at the proposed fixing or bearing line — Open a hole through. A 340 mm breast standing on a 100 mm party wall is common, and it is not the one-brick wall the guidance note assumes.
- Mortar condition at that same line — Scratch the bed joints. Mortar you can rub out with a screwdriver will not hold a tension fixing, which is what a bracket applies.
- Container standing position and permit route — No driveway means the highway, which means a permit; no permit means bulk bags, which changes both the handling plan and the volume you can move in a day.
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