Wet trades

Screeding Over Underfloor Heating Pipes

Ordering a screed off the cover over the tube crown, gauging a ratio that means something, and the three separate waits that follow the pour.
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Sixty-Five Millimetres From What?

The tubing crew has gone. What they left is a mat of 16 mm pipe clipped down at 150 centres, insulation boards that rock slightly underfoot in the corner where the boarder ran out of full sheets, a manifold holding pressure on a gauge nobody has photographed, and a drawing with two words on it: 65 mm screed. That figure is the first argument of the day, because sixty-five millimetres is a dimension with no datum attached. Measured up from the insulation it is one order. Measured up from the crown of the pipe it is another, and across a modest ground floor the gap between those two readings is most of a mixer load.

The dimension the heating system actually controls is the cover over the crown, and it is controlled for two reasons at once: it is the depth that has to carry load in bending over a void of pipe, and it is the depth heat has to spread sideways through before it reaches the surface as something other than stripes. EN 1264, the water-based surface embedded heating and cooling standard, is where that cover requirement lives, alongside whatever the screed system supplier prints for the specific product. The total depth you actually place is that cover plus the outside diameter of the tube, because the tube is sitting underneath it — and where the pipe is carried on a raised rail or a castellated panel rather than clipped flat to the insulation, the rail height goes on top of that again.

None of which helps until you know where the base is. A power-floated slab, a beam-and-block deck with a levelling sand blinding, and a room where the insulation has been laid over a slab that fell 8 mm across its length are three different quantities for the same drawing. Set a laser to finished floor level, take the base down at a grid of points, and write the worst of them down. That reading is not pedantry — it is the single biggest term in the waste allowance, and it is the one that decides whether the last bay gets screeded on the day or on a Saturday.

What the Wagon Has to Carry

Gross volume is floor area multiplied by cover plus tube diameter, and that includes the strip round the perimeter where nobody ran any pipe, because the screed goes there too. Then take out what the pipe itself occupies. It looks like a rounding error and is not: the length of tube in the floor is roughly the area divided by the centres, so eighty square metres at 150 centres carries something over five hundred metres of pipe, and the volume that pipe pushes out of the way is a real fraction of the pour. On tight centres at an external wall it climbs further. Whether you carry the deduction or ignore it is a decision worth making deliberately rather than by not noticing.

Where a floor is tubed at two spacings — 100 centres in the bathroom and along the glazing, 200 in the middle of a lounge — run the zones separately and add them, because both the displacement and, sometimes, the cover differ between them. Same for a wet room falling to a gully, which is a separate screed geometry entirely and not a flat depth over an area.

The waste percentage is where estimates quietly go wrong. On most floors the dominant term is not spillage and it is not what the mixer keeps; it is the substrate survey you took in the last section. A base a few millimetres low over half its area absorbs a percentage nobody can see until the wagon is empty and there is a bay left. Where the base has been surveyed and is genuinely flat, that allowance can come down. Where it has not been surveyed at all, ten per cent is a guess dressed as a number.

Then convert once, into whatever unit the supply is actually sold in. A pumped screed arrives in cubic metres and is invoiced in tonnes, which means the hardened density matters to the paperwork even though it does not touch the volume. Bagged material is sold on a yield figure printed on the bag — a mixed-and-placed volume, not the dry contents, and one that moves with how much water the mix takes. Site-gauged sand and cement is ordered as tonnes of sand and a bag count. Three different questions, one volume behind all of them, and a screed that stops half a bay short has just built a cold joint the design never asked for.

Cover over the crown, tube diameter and tube centres are the three numbers the order actually rests on — this takes them to a net volume with the pipe displacement already out, plus the tonnage and the bag count the merchant will want.

SettingsSettings for this calculation
Who is doing the work?

The standard allowance most suppliers and estimating guides assume for ordinary work.

The floor area the screed covers.

Screed depth measured from the top of the tube to the finished surface.

Outside diameter of the heating tube itself.

Centre-to-centre spacing of the tube runs across the floor.

Density of the hardened screed mix being placed.

The finished volume one bag makes up, taken from the bag itself.

Extra for an uneven substrate, spillage and the mixer's leavings.

Screed volume required

6.797 yd³

High confidence
Screed thickness over the substrate
2.38 in
Volume before the tube displacement is taken out
6.32 yd³
Volume displaced by the tube
0.14 yd³
Length of tube in the floor
1,720 ft
Screed mass at the density entered
12.03 tons
Bags to order
368 bags

Estimated cost — your price

This site holds no price list for this material — local prices vary too much to publish honestly. Enter your supplier's price and the result is costed with it.

screed 2.38 inscreed 60.45 mminsulation

What this calculation does not cover

  • Assumes the tube sits on the substrate or a thin clip rail. Tube carried on a raised rail or a profiled panel needs that build-up added to the cover depth.
  • Perimeter edge strip, movement joint fill and any levelling compound over the finished screed are separate items.

A Ratio Is Not a Recipe Until You Say By What

BS 8204-1, the code of practice for concrete bases and cementitious levelling screeds, puts a traditional levelling screed in the region of one part cement to three or four and a half parts sand. Every one of those ratios is stated by weight. Almost nobody on site gauges by weight. The gauge box, the bucket, the wheelbarrow counted in shovels — all volume, and a ratio moved from one basis to the other without saying so is how a floor ends up leaner or richer than the paper says it is.

Converting is arithmetic, not a rule of thumb: divide each mass by that material's bulk density and compare the volumes. Cement is the easy half, and this site's own mix tools use the figure that has been hiding in plain sight for a century — the 94 lb bag exists because it holds a cubic foot, which puts loose portland cement at about 1,506 kg per cubic metre. Sand is the difficult half, because damp building sand has no single bulk density. Somewhere between 1,400 and 1,700 kg per cubic metre covers most of it, and where in that range you sit depends on how wet the pile is and how long it has stood.

Which brings up bulking, the oldest gauging fault in the wet trades and still the one that quietly costs cement. Damp sand holds itself apart on the water films between grains and can occupy noticeably more volume than the same sand dry or flooded. Fill a fixed gauge box with it and you have loaded less sand than you think, so the mix comes out richer than specified — more cement, more shrinkage, more curling, and a bigger bill for the privilege. Let the same pile dry out over a hot week and the fault reverses into a lean, dusty screed. The old inundation check settles it in five minutes: measure a container of the damp sand as it comes off the pile, flood it with water so the films collapse, level it and read the drop. That percentage is what your gauge box is losing, and it is why the merchants sell sand by the tonne.

A screed is a two-part mix, and the ratio tool on this site is built for cement, sand and coarse aggregate. That mismatch has a clean answer rather than a fudge. The headline the screeder needs is cement bags, and the bag count depends only on the cement fraction of the total — so split the aggregate across the two aggregate columns and the fraction is preserved exactly. A 1:4 screed entered as 1:2:2 gives one part in five as cement either way, which is the same answer; add the two aggregate lines back together afterwards and that is your sand. Where the specification calls for a fine concrete levelling screed instead — BS 8204-1 covers those for thicker sections and heavier loading, typically with a 10 mm aggregate — all three columns mean exactly what they say and nothing needs splitting.

One caution the tool states itself and it matters more for screed than for concrete: dry ingredient volumes do not add up to placed volume. The materials pack together, and a semi-dry screed is then compacted on top of that. Treat the batched volumes as a proportioning answer and the placed volume from the previous section as the ordering answer, and never let the second be derived from the first.

Enter the placed volume and the proportions, and it returns cement bags in the size your market actually stocks along with the aggregate split — for a two-part screed, put the sand across both aggregate columns and read the bag count, which is the number the gauge box has to hit.

The volume of loose dry material the ratio divides up — not the volume of finished concrete it makes.

The cement portion of the mix ratio.

The sand portion of the mix ratio.

The gravel (coarse aggregate) portion of the mix ratio.

Cement bags needed

5 x 94 lb cement bags

Medium confidence

These are mixing proportions, not an order quantity. The figures describe a batch of loose dry cement, sand and gravel measuring the volume entered, and mixed and placed that batch fills roughly two thirds of that volume — so batch about half again to fill the whole of it. For structural work, verify your mix design meets the required strength for its application.

Sand needed
9 ft³
Gravel needed
13.5 ft³

Estimated cost — your price

This site holds no price list for this material — local prices vary too much to publish honestly. Enter your supplier's price and the result is costed with it.

What this calculation does not cover

  • No bulking allowance is built in. The ratio divides the figure you type, so the three components add up to exactly it, and what comes out of the mixer is around a third smaller — the mix closes its own voids, fine material taking up the gaps in the coarse and paste taking up the rest. Scaling the input by about one and a half is the usual working allowance for hand-mixed concrete, and it is left to you on purpose: the true factor moves with the richness of the mix and with the water it takes, and water is not an input here, so a single built-in constant would run high on a rich mix and low on a lean one.
  • This is a volume split, not a mix design. It does not check that the ratio you entered reaches a specified strength, exposure class or durability requirement, and it does not replace a designed mix with trial batching and cube or cylinder testing on structural, reinforced or inspected work.
  • Water is not in the output. A volume ratio says nothing about the water-cement ratio, which is what actually governs strength and durability, and nothing about air entrainment, plasticiser or any other admixture dosage.
  • The split ignores everything about the aggregate except its share of the ratio — grading, maximum size, the moisture already in the pile, and sand bulking, which can swell damp sand enough that a measured bucket carries noticeably less sand than a dry one. Volume batching on site is also less repeatable than weigh-batching for the same reason.
  • The bag count comes from a standard loose bulk density for portland cement, not from a weigh-batch of the cement you have, and it rounds up to whole bags with no allowance for spillage or part-used bags. Mixes with no coarse aggregate — mortars, screeds, renders — are outside what this page accepts, because it requires at least one part gravel.

The Class Is a Letter and Two Numbers

Where the screed comes from a manufacturer rather than out of a gauge box, stop specifying a ratio and start specifying a class. EN 13813 designates screed materials as a binder code followed by strength classes — CT-C25-F4 and its relatives — and that designation, verified by the EN 13892 test methods, is a far more useful thing to hold a supplier to than a proportion nobody will witness being batched.

Over a heated floor the flexural figure earns its place ahead of the compressive one. A floating screed sits on compressible insulation, spans between clip rails, and has a lattice of round voids running through its lower half at regular centres. That is a thin plate in bending with a deliberate line of weakness under every pipe run, which is precisely the loading a flexural class describes and a compressive cube does not. It is also why cover over the crown is a structural number and not only a thermal one.

Reading an EN 13813 screed designation on a delivery ticket
CodeWhat it statesWhy it matters over pipework
CTCementitious screed materialDries by losing water it was mixed with, so shrinkage, bay layout and curing are all the screeder's problem
CACalcium sulfate (anhydrite) screed materialLays thinner and wraps the tube more completely, but brings surface laitance and its own moisture limit for the flooring trade
C25Compressive strength class, in newtons per square millimetreDriven by loading and by the finish; rarely the governing number on a domestic floor
F4Flexural strength class, in newtons per square millimetreThe number carrying a thin plate that spans between rails and is voided along every pipe run
Reading an EN 13813 screed designation on a delivery ticket

Fibre Does One Job Well and Nothing Else At All

Polypropylene micro-fibre through a heated screed is worth having, and it is worth being precise about why. It controls plastic shrinkage cracking in the hours before the material has any tensile strength of its own — the period when a large warm floor with a big surface area is losing water fast and has nothing to resist the stress that causes. ASTM C1116 covers the fibre class; the dosage rate comes off the manufacturer's data sheet and is stated as mass per unit volume, which means it multiplies the net screed volume rather than the floor area.

What it does not do is add cover, replace a joint, or licence a thinner section over the pipe. A screed with fibre in it and 25 mm of cover where the system asked for 45 will still crack along the tube lines, and it will crack on the same schedule. Fibre buys the first day. Thickness, bay size and curing buy the rest.

Fabric reinforcement in a floating heated screed is a more awkward conversation. Where a designer has specified it, the practical question is where it can physically sit: mesh has to be positioned within the section to do anything, and in a screed whose lower half is already occupied by pipe there is often nowhere correct left. That is a discussion to have with whoever specified it before the pour, not a decision to make with a pair of nips at seven in the morning.

Dosage is mass per cubic metre, so run it against the net screed volume you settled earlier — the answer is a sack count to have standing by the mixer, and it is small enough that people forget to order it at all.

The total volume of concrete being placed, in the unit shown.

The fibre dosage rate, as mass per unit volume of concrete.

Fiber needed

26.3 lb

Medium confidence

Fiber dosage varies significantly by product and intended use (shrinkage control vs. structural reinforcement) — always follow the specific fiber manufacturer's technical data sheet for your project.

Equivalent in pounds
26.29 lb

Estimated cost — your price

This site holds no price list for this material — local prices vary too much to publish honestly. Enter your supplier's price and the result is costed with it.

What this calculation does not cover

  • Only the dosage rate carries any information about the fiber itself. Length, denier, geometry and whether the product is monofilament, fibrillated or macro all change what a given kg/m³ actually delivers, and none of them are inputs. The rate has to come from the data sheet for the fiber being supplied.
  • This is a purchase quantity, not a reinforcement design. It does not look at residual flexural strength, joint spacing, slab thickness or subgrade, and it cannot tell you whether fiber substitutes for bar. A jointless or structural fiber slab is designed against a residual-strength requirement measured on notched beams, and the dose falls out of that design rather than out of a volume multiplied by a rate.
  • The answer is an exact mass for the exact volume typed: no waste allowance, no over-batching margin, and no rounding to whole bags. Fiber ships in pre-weighed bags sized to a batch, so what you actually order is bags per truck — round the mass up yourself against the bag size.
  • The dosage rate is capped at 9 kg/m³ (0.56 pcf). That range covers micro-synthetic and structural synthetic macro fiber, but steel fiber doses used in jointless industrial floors sit well above it, and a rate typed above the cap is clamped down to 9 rather than refused.
  • Nothing here covers what the fiber does to the pour. Mixing time and drum speed decide whether the fibers disperse or ball up, higher doses cut slump and can bring fiber to the surface, and the power-float window moves with them. Those sit with the ready-mix supplier and the finishing crew, not with this number.

Bays, Edges, and the Places It Will Break Anyway

A heated screed is a floor that is deliberately made to change size. Every bay layout decision follows from that. The screed system supplier sets the maximum bay area and the aspect ratio it will tolerate; heated floors are commonly bayed more tightly than unheated ones for the obvious reason. Where a bay runs long and thin it wants breaking regardless of area, and every doorway gets a joint whether the geometry demands one or not, because a narrow throat between two rooms is where a floor cracks if you do not pre-empt it.

Perimeter edge strip is not trim. It is what allows the whole bay to grow when the floor first runs at design temperature, and it has to be continuous, full depth, and carried up past finished floor level to be cut back after the covering goes down. A strip that has been trimmed flush with the screed before tiling, or stopped short around a kitchen island plinth, hands the floor a hard point to push against. Where a flowing screed is being used, the strip and the membrane also have to be taped into a genuine tray, because a self-levelling material will find every gap under a door frame and every service penetration and go looking for the rest of the house.

Pipe crossing a joint is the detail that gets skipped. Sleeve it, cross it square, and keep the crossing as short as the geometry allows. The manifold fan is the same problem at higher stakes: a dozen flow and return tails leaving one cabinet at close centres is the hottest square metre in the building, and left unsleeved it will run visibly warmer than everything the design promised and crack the screed in front of the cupboard.

Surface regularity is the last thing to agree before anyone starts, because it decides how the screed is finished and by whom. BS 8204-1 sets the SR classes measured under a two-metre straightedge — SR1 at 3 mm, SR2 at 5 mm, SR3 at 10 mm — and the flooring specification, not the screeder's pride, is what selects one. Elsewhere the same argument is had in F-numbers to ASTM E1155. Either way, agree the class in writing, because an SR1 floor and an SR3 floor are different labour on the same day's materials.

  1. Mark the bay lines on the insulation before any screed arrives, with the doorway breaks set out against the door schedule rather than the room names.
  2. Run the edge strip continuous round the perimeter and round every column, upstand and plinth, full depth and standing proud of finished floor level.
  3. Tape the membrane laps and the strip junction into a closed tray if the material is flowing, so nothing can drain out under a frame.
  4. Sleeve every pipe crossing a bay line, and sleeve or insulate the manifold tails for their first stretch out of the cabinet.
  5. Photograph the pressure gauge, with the day's date visible, before the first barrow lands and again when the last bay is closed.

Compaction Is the Job

A semi-dry sand-cement screed is not poured, it is placed and beaten. The consistency is the old one: a handful squeezed in a gloved fist holds together, keeps its shape, and gives up no water. Anything wetter is easier to spread, weaker when it hardens, and shrinks more on the way — which on a heated floor means curled bay edges and cracks over the pipe lines within a season. The temptation to add water arrives at about two in the afternoon on a hot day, and it should be answered with a covered barrow and a shorter run, not a hose.

The pipe zone is where compaction actually fails. Material bridging across the crown of a tube leaves a void under it that nobody sees, because the surface above closes up perfectly. It becomes a hollow patch under a tile, a debonded area on an unbonded screed, and eventually a crack running dead straight down the floor at exactly the tube centres. Work the material in around and under the pipe first, in one operation, before bringing the whole bay up to the datum strips and compacting to level.

Flowing calcium sulfate screeds trade this problem for a different one. They compact themselves and encapsulate the tube better than any amount of beating, which is part of why they can be laid thinner; in exchange, the tube has to be genuinely restrained against flotation, the tray has to be watertight, and the surface laitance has to be dealt with by the programme rather than discovered by the flooring contractor. Neither material is the easy one. They are difficult in different places.

Three Clocks, and Nobody Wants to Wait for Any of Them

Curing, drying and commissioning are three separate processes with three separate purposes, and conflating any two of them cracks floors. The first is hydration: the screed needs its mix water to react, not to evaporate, so it gets covered and kept damp for the period the material's own literature states. A screed that felt dry on the third day was not cured quickly, it was cured badly, and its strength class is now a claim rather than a property.

The second clock starts when the first one finishes and belongs to whoever is laying the floor covering. Cementitious screed dries slowly and from one face, and the rule of thumb the UK flooring codes are usually quoted for — roughly a day per millimetre for the first fifty millimetres in good conditions, considerably slower beyond that — is a planning figure and nothing else. The only acceptable evidence is a measurement: in-situ relative humidity probes to ASTM F2170, the calcium chloride method to ASTM F1869, or a surface hygrometer box as described for the UK flooring codes of practice such as BS 8203. ACI 302.2R exists precisely because slabs receiving moisture-sensitive flooring generate more claims than any other detail in a building.

The third clock is commissioning, and EN 1264-4 is where its shape comes from: the floor is not heated until the screed has reached the age the standard and the manufacturer specify, longer for cementitious material than for calcium sulfate. Then it runs at a low flow temperature for a stated period, steps up to the maximum design flow temperature for a further stated period, and every one of those dates and temperatures is written down and signed. Take the durations from the standard and from the screed manufacturer, not from a forum and not from the programme.

That cycle proves the system and drives out residual moisture. It is not the drying test, it does not replace the drying test, and it is emphatically not a service to the plasterers, who will ask. Running an untested, uncommissioned heated floor to dry a building out is how a screed gets taken from ambient to design temperature in one afternoon, and how a floor that would have lasted forty years acquires its first crack before anyone has moved in.

Write the three dates into the programme as three separate line items with three different owners. Where they appear as a single bar labelled screed, somebody will price the bar and somebody else will compress it.

What the Cracks Are Telling You in February

Straight cracks running the length of the floor at regular spacing, and the spacing matches the tube centres: that is cover. Either there was never enough screed over the crown, or the material bridged during placing and left a void that the first heating cycle turned into a hinge. It is diagnosable from a tape measure alone, and it is the failure this entire page is arranged to prevent.

Lifted, hollow-sounding bay edges and corners are drying shrinkage acting on the top face — too wet a mix, too fast a dry, no curing, or all three in sequence. Fine map crazing across the surface is a different animal: a laitance-rich skin brought up by over-working the surface. It is cosmetic on its own and fatal to an adhesive bond, which makes it the flooring contractor's problem and therefore, in practice, an argument.

Then there is the crack that appears the first genuinely cold week of the year on a floor that passed everything. Look for a joint that was drawn and not cut, a doorway with no break in it, an edge strip trimmed off flush before the tiler arrived, or an unsleeved manifold fan. A heated screed that has been ordered to the right depth and gauged to a real ratio still fails at whichever restraint nobody thought about, and every one of those four is decided before the mixer starts, not after.

Settled before the wagon is booked

Six things that have to exist as written figures rather than as an understanding between two trades, because every one of them changes either the quantity or the mix.

  • Cover over the crown, in writing, from the system supplier — Not the total screed depth and not the drawing's single number — EN 1264 and the screed product between them settle it, and the pour depth is that cover plus the tube diameter plus any rail.
  • A levelled survey of the base at a grid of points — The worst reading is the largest term in the waste allowance; a base nobody measured makes the percentage a guess with a decimal point on it.
  • Tube centres zone by zone, with the tight zones named — Perimeter and wet-room zones at close centres carry more pipe per square metre, which moves both the displacement and, sometimes, the depth.
  • Either an EN 13813 designation or a ratio with its basis stated — CT-C25-F4 is checkable against a delivery ticket; one-to-four is not gaugeable at all until somebody says whether it is by weight or by volume.
  • A bulking check on the sand pile the day you gauge — Inundate a measured container and read the settlement — that percentage is what a fixed gauge box is silently taking out of the mix.
  • Pressure held on the circuits through the pour, photographed — A nail or a barrow wheel through a tube is discoverable in an hour and unfindable in February, by which time the floor is the evidence.
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Drawn from

  • BS 8204-1, Screeds, bases and in-situ floorings — Concrete bases and cementitious levelling screeds to receive floorings: code of practice
  • BS 8204-7, Screeds, bases and in-situ floorings — Pumpable self-smoothing screeds: code of practice
  • BS EN 1264 (all parts), Water-based surface embedded heating and cooling systems — Part 4 covers installation and the functional heating cycle
  • BS EN 13813, Screed material and floor screeds — Screed material: properties and requirements (the CT and CA binder codes and the C and F strength classes)
  • BS EN 13892 (all parts), Methods of test for screed material
  • BS EN 13139, Aggregates for mortar
  • BS 8203, Code of practice for installation of resilient floor coverings — subfloor moisture assessment before laying
  • ASTM C1116 / C1116M, Standard Specification for Fiber-Reinforced Concrete
  • ASTM F2170, Standard Test Method for Determining Relative Humidity in Concrete Floor Slabs Using in situ Probes
  • ASTM F1869, Standard Test Method for Measuring Moisture Vapor Emission Rate of Concrete Subfloor Using Anhydrous Calcium Chloride
  • ASTM E1155, Standard Test Method for Determining FF Floor Flatness and FL Floor Levelness Numbers
  • ACI 302.1R, Guide to Concrete Floor and Slab Construction
  • ACI 302.2R, Guide for Concrete Slabs that Receive Moisture-Sensitive Flooring Materials

Guidance, not a specification. Local codes, the engineer of record and the product manufacturer’s instructions govern where they differ from anything written here.