The gutter is still on the fascia and the ridge is where it has always been
The strip finished before lunch. Old battens in the skip, the felt gone with them, daylight showing between the rafter backs, and a stack of pallets due on Thursday. Two things on this roof have not moved and are not going to. The gutter is hung on the fascia at the height it has sat at for forty years, and the ridge is at the height the roof was built to. Everything the re-cover consists of has to fit between those two, and the fitting is done with a tape, a pencil and ten minutes of arithmetic before a single batten nail goes anywhere.
It helps to see what the problem actually is, because it is not really a roofing problem. You have a fixed distance, a maximum permitted step, and a requirement that every step come out identical. That is the same sum a joiner does setting out a flight of stairs: total rise fixed by the two floors, a riser height capped by regulation, divide, round the count up, and every riser lands equal and slightly under the cap. Roofers do exactly that and call the step a gauge. Nobody says the word riser on a roof, but the arithmetic does not care what you call it.
Two things make the roof version harder than the stairs. The distance you divide is not the rafter length — it runs from the eaves batten to the top batten, and both of those are positioned by things that have nothing to do with the covering. And the maximum step is not a published constant the way a riser height is. It falls as the pitch falls and it falls again on an exposed site, because it is a leftover: what remains of a slate or a tile once the headlap that pitch and that exposure demand has been taken out of its length. So the work runs in one order. Fix the bottom line. Fix the top line. Find the maximum step. Divide, round up, and give the remainder back to every course equally.
The first line is set by the gutter, not by the roof
The eaves batten is the datum for every mark above it, and where it goes is decided by where the tail of the first course has to finish. That tail has to discharge into the gutter: far enough over the front bead that a gust cannot carry the run-off past it, not so far across that the water lands on the far side of the gutter or the tail sits down inside it collecting leaves. There is no published dimension for that relationship — BS 5534 requires the covering to discharge into the gutter and leaves the setting to the eaves detail in the tile maker's fixing instructions, which is where you should take it from when the maker draws one. The common workshop setting is the tail landing roughly a third of the way across the gutter, and that is a rule of thumb rather than a specification.
Work the projection on the flat before you work anything on the slope. How far the covering stands past the face of the fascia is a plan dimension, because everything the projection is for lives on the flat: where the gutter hangs, how much of the wall head the eaves shelters, how close the roof comes to a boundary. Only once that number is agreed does it become a cutting length, and the cutting length is bigger, because a rafter tail runs down the slope rather than horizontally. Three hundred millimetres of projection past the wall face is more than three hundred millimetres of timber, and the steeper the roof the wider the gap between the two figures. Cutting tails to the plan dimension is a mistake that shows up as an eaves that finishes short of the gutter with the fascia already fixed.
Then the tilt. The tail of the first course has to be lifted or it stands proud on its own nose and the eaves course rocks instead of bedding — a tilting fillet on the fascia does it, or a thicker or doubled eaves batten. That lift is a real thickness and it moves the batten's effective line, so it belongs in the set-out rather than in the fixing. Slate and plain tile put a second constraint on the same batten: the under-eaves course is a short piece of gauge-plus-lap length, so the eaves batten has to land where a short piece of an obtainable length can reach it. That piece is either a product you order or full ones cut down at full price, and deciding which is a Tuesday decision rather than a Friday one.
If the gutter is staying, measure what it gives you rather than what it ought to give you: fascias bow, gutters get re-hung at a fall somebody guessed at, and a bead sitting fifteen millimetres high moves the whole acceptable band for the tail. If it is coming off, then the eaves set-out and the gutter set-out are one job — capacity and layout under BS EN 12056-3, position off the eaves detail, both settled before the first batten rather than after.
- Agree the projection past the fascia face as a plan dimension, with the gutter position and the boundary in front of you.
- Convert that plan figure into an along-slope length before any tail is cut or lengthened.
- Set the tilting fillet or the thickened eaves batten, and treat its lift as part of the datum rather than as a fixing detail.
- Position the eaves batten so an under-eaves piece of gauge-plus-lap length can reach it without being invented.
- Lay a straightedge from the batten line down the tail and check where the water actually leaves, against the gutter as it is hung today.
- Repeat the whole check at the far gable, because one bowed fascia will give you two different answers.
Put in the horizontal projection you settled on at the gutter and the pitch you measured, and it hands back the along-slope length the tail actually has to be cut to — the conversion that gets skipped when the fascia is already up and the tape is on the slope.
The desired horizontal (plan-view) distance the roof overhangs the wall.
The main roof pitch, expressed as rise per 12 units of run.
Rafter tail length
2.236 ft
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Roof Overhang Tail Length Calculator: 2.24 ft — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
What this calculation does not cover
- This is the EAVE overhang, where rafters run down the slope. A gable rake overhang is carried on level lookouts out to a fly rafter, and a lookout's length is the horizontal projection with NO slope factor at all — cut rake framing to this number and every piece is long by the factor: 12% at a 6/12, 41% at a 12/12.
- Gives a length and says nothing about whether the tail can carry it. A rafter tail is a cantilever off the birdsmouth, and what limits how far it reaches is the wood left above the seat cut together with wind uplift on the eave. A wide overhang is a sail, and on an exposed site it is uplift trying to peel the tail off, not the weight of the roof, that sets the reach and the tie-down needed at the wall.
- Everything depends on where the horizontal overhang was measured from. Overhang is usually dimensioned from the outside face of the wall framing, sometimes from the sheathing or the finished cladding, while the carpenter cuts from the heel of the birdsmouth — cross those reference points and the eave lands out by the sheathing and cladding thickness on every rafter in the run.
Headlap is a floor, and the gauge is whatever it leaves behind
Headlap is a minimum with a document behind it. The gauge is a leftover. On a double-lap covering — natural slate, plain clay tile, plain concrete tile — every point in the field carries two thicknesses and the head of each course carries three, because the piece covering a slate's head is not the one directly above it but the one two courses above. That is what makes the arithmetic a division rather than a subtraction: take the lap out of the length and what is left has to be shared between two courses, so the gauge is the length minus the headlap, all over two. That halving is the most consequential operation on this page and the one most often lost when a sum gets carried across from a single-lap job.
The minimum itself is not yours. BS 5534 sets it against pitch and against site exposure for UK practice; the slate provisions in Chapter 9 of the International Residential Code tabulate it against slope where that code is adopted; and for a named tile profile the manufacturer's fixing specification is the only one of the three that knows about that tile's camber, its nibs and its side interlock. Exposure here means driving rain rather than uplift, and BS 8104 is the method for assessing it — which is why the same house type at the same pitch takes more lap on an exposed western hillside than in a sheltered valley twenty miles inland. A lap figure carried over from the last roof is only valid if that roof shared the pitch, the exposure and the covering.
Plain tile also changes where the dimension is physically taken. A plain tile hangs by its nibs over the top arris of the batten; a slate is nailed through to the batten face. So on a nib-hung tile the gauge is an arris-to-arris dimension, and the length that goes into the sum is the tile's hanging length, nose to nib, which is not always the overall length printed in the catalogue.
The camber is doing work as well, in both directions. It is what stops the courses lying dead flat on one another and holds a drainage gap open through the double lap, so opening the gauge too far on a cambered tile leaves the joint between the two tiles below with less than the camber's own depth of cover over it. Plain tile carries a minimum pitch of its own into the bargain, steeper than most other coverings, and that figure comes off the fixing specification rather than off any general table.
Two things push the lap requirement about once you are inside the tables. A shallow pitch gives water longer to cross a head joint and gives wind a better angle to push it back up underneath, so the lap grows as the slope falls. And the bottom of a roof is the wettest part of it, which is the real reason the eaves course is doubled: the lap at the tail is assessed on its own terms rather than assumed to match the field.
| Dimension | Where it is fixed | What you are actually deciding |
|---|---|---|
| Minimum pitch for this covering | The manufacturer's fixing specification, with BS 5534 or the adopted code behind it | Whether this covering is possible on this roof at all, and the answer is sometimes no |
| Site exposure to driving rain | A BS 8104 assessment for the location | Which column of the lap requirement you are entitled to read |
| Minimum headlap at that pitch and exposure | BS 5534, IRC Chapter 9 for slate, or the maker's table for a named profile | Nothing. It is a floor, and every later decision moves away from it in one direction only |
| Batten section and grade | BS 5534 against rafter spacing, with graded and marked battens | Lengths and how you order them, so that joints fall where you want them |
| Where batten joints may fall | BS 5534 — over a rafter, and not clustered through adjacent courses | Which rafter each joint lands on, and where the run gets cut to suit |
| Underlay type and its own lap | BS EN 13859-1 product specification and the underlay maker's figures | Whether counter-battens are needed, which changes every nail length on the roof |
| Gutter capacity, fall and position | BS EN 12056-3 | Where the tail of the first course sits over the bead |
| The gauge | Nothing fixes it | This is the only dimension on the list you choose, and you may only choose downward |
Dividing what is left into equal steps
With the eaves batten fixed and the top batten line known, the distance to divide is finally a real measured number. It is not the rafter length and it is not eave to ridge on the drawing. It is eaves batten to top batten, taken along the slope: call it the field run, because it is the part of the roof the field courses have to cover. Divide it by the maximum gauge the lap requirement left you and you will get something like 17.6 courses. Round up to 18. Divide the field run by 18 and that is the gauge you will nail. It is smaller than the maximum, which means the lap is larger than the minimum, and that is the only direction it is ever safe to be wrong in.
Rounding the other way is how roofs get quietly lost. Seventeen courses instead of eighteen saves a row of battens, a course of slate and half an hour, and opens the gauge past the maximum by a few millimetres. Nobody can see it, nothing leaks for a decade, and then a night of driven rain finds every head joint at once — and the callback is a strip, because the fault is not in one place. The temptation is worst on a long slope, where one course in twenty looks like rounding rather than a decision.
The remainder has three honest homes and one dishonest one. Spread it equally across every course by tightening the gauge fractionally — the default, and the one that reads best from the ground, because nothing about the roof looks different. Take it at the eaves, by moving the tail projection a few millimetres inside the band the gutter allows. Or take it at the top, letting the ridge covering sit over a slightly deeper lap on the last course. What you may not do is absorb it in one course somewhere in the middle of the slope. A single course laid at a different margin is a line straight across the building that low winter sun picks out from the pavement for the rest of the covering's life, and it is the fault every roofer can name on somebody else's job.
Do all of this per plane. Two sides of a hip rarely measure the same. A dormer cheek is its own slope with its own short run, its own rounding and often its own answer. A rear addition re-plated at one end will hand you two different eave-to-ridge lengths across what looked like one rectangle from the scaffold. Each plane gets its own division and its own gauge, and where two planes meet at a hip you then decide on purpose which one's course lines carry across the intersection — because the eye follows those lines over the hip, and a mismatch there is the first thing anyone notices about a roof they were not looking at.
- Measure the field run — eaves batten to top batten line, along the slope — at both gables and once in the middle.
- Take the maximum gauge from the lap requirement for this pitch and this exposure, using the covering's measured length rather than its catalogue name.
- Divide the run by that maximum, and round the course count up. Never down.
- Divide the field run by the rounded count to get the gauge you will nail, then check backwards that the lap it produces is at or above the minimum.
- Decide where the remainder goes before you mark anything: spread across all courses, or taken at one end. Not in the middle.
- Mark both gables from the eaves datum with a tape, then chalk between the marks — never step one batten position off the last one fixed.
Feed it the field run and the exposure your lap requirement permits and it gives you the course count for that plane; then work the gauge back out of the rounded count by hand, because the gauge you nail is the one that closes on a whole number, not the one you divided by.
The sloped roof run from eave to ridge to be covered in slate.
The portion of each slate exposed to weather in the finished course.
Slate courses needed
32 courses
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Slate Shingle Course Calculator: 32 courses — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
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What this calculation does not cover
- Every course is treated as sitting at the one exposure you enter, because the run is divided once by that single figure — a roof set out with a tighter gauge over the first courses at the eaves, or eased across the whole slope to swallow an awkward last course, will not land on this number.
- The division counts exposure steps between the eave and the ridge, so the doubled eaves course, which shares the first step with the slate above it, adds no step here and no extra row to the count, and neither does the ridge closure.
- A part course is rounded up to a whole one, which leaves the whole of the leftover run sitting in the final course under the ridge rather than being shared out along the slope as a slater would normally close the gauge.
- The exposure figure is taken entirely on trust: anything from 1 cm (0.39 in) to 30 cm (12 in) is accepted, and because neither slate length nor roof pitch is asked for, a margin far too open for the slate you have still comes back as a clean whole number of courses.
- Roof width never enters the arithmetic, so the answer stops at courses — how many slates stand in each course, the total slate order, and the running metres of batten those courses call for all depend on the eave-to-rake dimension this page does not collect.
- One eave-to-ridge run is handled at a time, so a slope interrupted by a dormer, a mansard with a pitch break, or two planes of different height each need their own run entered and the course counts kept separate.
When the two ends refuse to be parallel
Old roofs sag in the middle and spread at the plates, so the field run at one gable and the field run at the other are frequently not the same number. Find 5.38 m at one end and 5.46 m at the other and no single gauge serves both. Spread over eighteen courses that is four or five millimetres a course — inside what a cambered plain tile will absorb without complaint, and well outside what a straight line of slate course heads will hide. There are two legitimate answers and they are chosen by geometry, not by preference. Run a tapered gauge: mark each gable independently to the same course count and chalk between the pairs of marks, so every course line is dead straight but the roof's courses are very slightly not parallel to each other. Or pack the fascia to bring the eaves datum true and push the whole discrepancy up to the ridge, where the ridge covering can be bedded to take it.
What does not work is averaging the two and setting out from the middle. That leaves you half the error at each gable and a course line that closes at neither end, which is the one outcome guaranteed to be visible from both sides of the building. The test to apply is always the same, and it is a test about sight lines rather than about water: standing on the path, which line does somebody actually read — the eaves, the ridge, or the verge? Put the error somewhere that is not that line, and take the decision before the first chalk goes down rather than discovering it at course fifteen.
The battens are the permanent record of a decision made with a tape
Row count comes out one higher than the number of gauge spacings, because a row is needed at both ends of the run. That much is arithmetic and it is what the calculator below does. What the arithmetic does not know is that neither end row is an ordinary batten. The eaves row is thicker or doubled to provide the tilt, and the top row sits wherever the ridge covering needs it, which is a dimension taken off the ridge system rather than off any multiple of the gauge. Both are positioned by hand rather than by the gauge, which means the count is right about how many rows and wrong about what two of them are: the eaves row is a second batten's worth of timber or a deeper section, and the gap between the top row and the last field batten is a leftover rather than a gauge. The order has to be priced that way.
Battens are a graded structural product and not an offcut. Section against rafter spacing, strength grade, moisture content, and a marking on the timber that proves all three — BS 5534 carries the requirement in UK practice, and the fixing instructions read with the adopted code do the equivalent elsewhere. A batten too shallow for the span between rafters deflects under a roofer's weight long before it meets a storm, and the gauge sags with it permanently. Joints matter as much as section: a joint lands over a rafter, and the run is cut so joints do not stack up through consecutive courses, because a column of joints on one rafter is a hinge running straight up the slope.
Counter-battens change two numbers rather than one. Everyone remembers the first — they hold the covering clear of the underlay so a drape can drain and a horizontal batten never dams water on the membrane. Fewer remember the second, which is that they add their own depth to every fastener on the roof. A slate nail has to pass slate, batten and counter-batten and still take a proper bite of the rafter beyond, so a nail length inherited from a job with no counter-battens is short here — and short nails at the eaves are the first thing a gale finds.
Fix from the marks, not off the last batten fixed. Stepping each row off its neighbour carries that neighbour's error forward and adds a fresh one, and a consistent millimetre over eighteen courses is a course line sitting eighteen millimetres off at the ridge — enough to leave a sliver of tile under the ridge covering that nothing in the range will hide. Marks transferred from a tape run off the eaves datum keep every error independent, small, and correctable while the chalk is still wet.
Slope length against the gauge you settled on returns the row count with a row already at each end of the run — run it plane by plane, and remember the two end rows are the ones you position by hand rather than by the gauge.
The total length of the roof measured along the slope, from eave to ridge.
The center-to-center spacing between batten rows, set by the tile manufacturer's gauge table.
Batten rows needed
17 rows
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Roof Batten Spacing Calculator (Tile Roofing): 17 rows — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
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What this calculation does not cover
- Divides the slope by one fixed gauge, and a roof is not set out that way. The eave course and the top course have their own positions fixed by the tile's headlap at each end, and the courses between are then equalised so the gauge divides the remainder exactly — meaning the working gauge sits at or below the manufacturer's maximum, never at it. Running the maximum straight up from the eave leaves the last course short of headlap at the ridge, which is where the rain gets in.
- Returns rows, not battens to order. The quantity is rows multiplied by the width of the roof, plus the lap at every batten join — and those joins have to be staggered between adjacent courses and land on a rafter, so a stock batten length that does not suit the rafter centres wastes an offcut at every join.
- Says nothing about counter-battens. On a roof drained over the underlay, vertical counter-battens run up the slope beneath these horizontal ones so water can get past them to the eave. Without them each batten is a small dam holding water on the underlay, and the second quantity is roughly one counter-batten per rafter over the full slope length.
Single-lap coverings halve nothing, and the settled gauge changes the order
Everything above assumes the covering doubles. Interlocking profiles and barrel tile do not. They lap the course below once and lock at the side instead of stacking a third thickness across the head, so the gauge is simply the tile's length minus the head lap the maker publishes for that profile at that pitch. No division by two. The two arithmetics use the same three words and produce answers a factor of two apart, which is why they should never be worked on the same sheet of paper on a site running both — a crew that carries the double-lap sum onto a single-lap roof lays it at roughly twice the intended exposure, and it looks generous on the first course.
The order is where the difference bites. A double-lap covering is counted per square metre out of its own geometry: one divided by the cover width times the gauge. A 265 mm plain tile at a 65 mm lap gives a 100 mm gauge, and at a 165 mm cover width that lands near sixty tiles to the square metre — the number every merchant will quote you, familiar only because those three inputs are the common case and not because it is a constant. A single-lap tile, by contrast, is usually bought against area at a published coverage, and that published coverage is quoted at the manufacturer's own gauge. Close your gauge tighter than that to land whole courses at the ridge, which is exactly what the division tells you to do, and every tile now covers slightly less roof than the brochure assumed. The count goes up. Recompute it from the gauge you settled on, using that gauge times the tile's cover width as the coverage figure, rather than from the catalogue number.
Barrel systems add their own wrinkles to the same principle. Some barrel fixing specifications set the battens out to a floating gauge with the tile hung on a nib or wired back rather than nailed through, which changes what a batten position even means and has to be read off the specification rather than assumed from a plain tile habit. The breakage allowance sits on top of everything and is not a constant either: it follows how cut-up the roof is, because clay will not cut on a curve and a hip takes a diagonal through a barrel that usually yields one usable piece.
Whatever family the covering belongs to, verify the size on the pallet standing in front of you rather than the one in your memory. Clay tile dimensions and their permitted tolerances are covered by BS EN 1304 and concrete tile by BS EN 490, and the tolerances those standards allow are real millimetres on a real tile. Pull ten off the stack, measure the hanging length on each, and set the roof out on the smallest you find — a gauge built on the average of the delivery is wrong on half of it, and it is wrong in the direction that loses lap.
Give it the sloped area, the net coverage per tile worked from the gauge you actually settled on, and a breakage allowance sized to the number of hips, valleys and rakes you counted — not the brochure coverage, which assumes a gauge your ridge would not accept.
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The standard allowance most suppliers and estimating guides assume for ordinary work.
The total roof area to be covered in clay barrel tile.
The net covered area contributed by one tile, accounting for overlap.
Extra tile to allow for breakage, cuts, and hips/valleys.
Clay barrel tiles needed
1,104 tiles
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Clay Barrel Roof Tile Calculator: 1,104 tiles — shown in imperial, US market. The link sets both, so the result they see is the one on your screen.
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What this calculation does not cover
- Tiles are counted here, never weighed. Installed clay barrel tile runs roughly 9 to 12 lb (4 to 5.5 kg) per square foot for one-piece profiles and can approach 19 lb (8.5 kg) for two-piece, against about 2.5 lb (1.1 kg) for asphalt shingle, so whether the rafters and deck can carry the count this page produces is a framing check — re-covering a shingle roof in clay without one loads structure that was never sized for it.
- Order the whole roof, attic stock included, in one go. Clay is kiln-fired and shade varies noticeably between production runs, so tiles fetched later to cover a short count arrive visibly different and cannot be blended into a finished field — running short is a permanent patch on the roof, not just a delay.
Three checks before the bands come off the stack
The first check is at the top, before any batten above mid-slope is nailed. Dry-lay the last three courses down from the ridge line and look at the margin the final course leaves. If it comes out as a stunted band of thirty millimetres showing in a straight line across the whole building, the division was right and the top batten line was wrong, and you have found it while the fix is still four battens rather than a plane. It is also the check that catches a ridge system whose requirements were assumed rather than read.
The second is at the bottom, from the ground. With the first two courses dry-laid, stand on the path and sight along the eaves: the tails should read as one line, sitting over the gutter where you decided they would, with the verge not running away from the barge. An eaves that is out is nearly always an eaves batten that followed a bowed fascia instead of a chalk line, and it is the most visible fault a re-cover can have, because it is the edge people actually look at.
The third check is the arithmetic run backwards, and it takes a minute. Multiply the gauge you actually chalked — the rounded millimetre, not the figure the division handed you — by the course count, and lay the answer against the field run you measured. Rounding the gauge down half a millimetre is nine millimetres over eighteen courses, and nine millimetres has to surface somewhere: at the top course, or as a lap fractionally deeper than you meant. If the difference is larger than the rounding can account for, one of the two ends moved while you were working, and it is better to know that with a tape in your hand than with a pallet open. When one of these three checks fails, only some of the numbers are allowed to move: the gauge may go down, the course count may go up, the tail projection may shift a few millimetres inside what the gutter permits, and the headlap may not go down at all. Every recovery from a failed set-out is made out of those four permissions and nothing else.
The numbers a batten order stands on
Six figures, settled in this order, so the gauge, the course count and the timber schedule cannot disagree with each other once the battens are on the roof.
- Plan projection at the eaves, converted to an along-slope tail — Agreed against the gutter as it is hung today, then converted before any tail is cut — the plan figure is the one you want and the slope figure is the one you cut.
- Measured pitch on each plane — Taken off the bare rafter backs in three places along the run, because the lap requirement is indexed to slope and an old roof can read differently at each gable.
- Minimum headlap for that pitch and that site exposure — BS 5534 with a BS 8104 exposure assessment, IRC Chapter 9 for slate where adopted, or the maker's fixing specification for a named profile. A floor, never a target.
- Field run, eaves batten to top batten, per plane — Not the rafter length. Both end battens are positioned by hand first and come out of the run before the division starts.
- Course count rounded up, and the gauge worked back out of it — The gauge you nail is the field run divided by the rounded count, which is tighter than the maximum and therefore deeper in lap than the minimum.
- Batten section, grade and joint positions — Section against rafter spacing, joints over rafters and not stacked through consecutive courses, plus counter-batten depth added into every nail length.
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